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Holy shit, this is even worse than i thought it would be. I have like no connection to ANY community now, no social life whatsoever since i’m banned from all these sites. I have a twitter account i follow some people i knew with, but i’m not posting anything on it and i’m not going to.

I really need to get started on something else, but there really doesn’t seem to be all that much (that’s friendly towards cubs etc.) anymore. I wish i could use one of the art sites like IB or Baraag, but they seem so intolerant towards AI art, there’d really be no point…

@Galener
Hello. I appreciate that you answered, and I’m sorry I unknowingly posted things you guys didn’t want here.
Now I feel bad… I think I’ll visit this site just to follow the conversations for now…

Rant / vent / rambling on Worms in the furry fandom context

This website claims to be a community, but in reality it’s 4-5 people at most who ever communicate. Who needs a fancy gallery layout, tags and an advanced blacklist system? A claustrophobic group chat on a Russian platform that’s at risk of being deleted any day by puritan staff is SO MUCH BETTER!.. This site somehow needs to be promoted to the furry fandom, but I’m not sure how, personally I don’t want to talk to strangers for this purpose.

The staff situation looks bad, though it could be way worse (looking at you, Buzzly.Art in 2022). Let’s see… The only staff members I’ve seen talking or doing anything since I joined were Dillocircus and Mavy. Dillocircus regularly adds content, and he usually took initiative and chose categories for tags without me even having to ask, but he has now been demoted (I wonder if it’s because of some of his decisions). I had a private conversation with Mavy. That’s it. I don’t know who is still around to handle tag categories, implications and aliases. I’m thinking about altering one of my DNP entries to be less strict, but this is bad timing… I also find it questionable that Dillocircus asked me not to post any more human lоlishо, but keeps posting it himself.

Recently, the whole site went down for a few days. Me and Dillocircus seem to be the only people who noticed and neither of us know what happened. Nobody in the Telegram group chat gave a flying fuck about the actual website going down even when I spoke about it.
There used to be a free and easy to use website where you could make your own Booru - booru.plus. I had 2 Boorus on there, which I put a lot of time and effort into, only for the owner to shut down the whole site one day, and it never came back since… I made 800+ submissions here, June flew by to me, so how do you think I felt when this site went down for longer than a day and the people I expected to care just ignored the situation?

I noticed some art/AI images of mine were removed. I don’t know who did it and - more importantly - why. E621 took down one of my submissions for a false reason but I could see the reason nonetheless, ATF also gave a reason for “deleting” a submission (IDK what “deleting” means there because I found “deleted” images from as far as 3 years ago).
The first furry booru where I shared Worms art (not mine) was E621, that’s when I realised how cold the furry community’s reception of Worms art truly is. I thought it may be because they have no fur, but neither do sharks, most dragons, etc… Perhaps I don’t understand “femboy” as the staff here would define it, and some characters I posted looked more like mere crossdressers than something that could pass as a woman. Perhaps on-model Worms don’t fit any anatomical category as their bodies appear feral but they have floating hands with clear thumbs. If this is about Worms being (arguably) cute but not being cubs - the same can be said for many other characters, particularly small Pokemon species. If anthrofied worms come off as close to humanoid, I can stop posting them, but I thought making them anthro would amplify the “cub” aspect. I don’t think the pictures I posted fell under “beginner/low quality art”, but if the staff have something against basic character designs, I’d like it to be said and not assume it. If the staff think Worms are not cute and therefore are not a good pick for this site by default, I’d like it to be said as well.

July 6 update: There are no rules against snuff (death), if this is why one of my recent submissions is stuck in mod queue or has been rejected. If this subject is unacceptable, the rules should be updated to clarify that.
Also, the fact Galener is an admin but has no messages on this site is strange.

Been looking at more sites (as a guest only). AI images are prohibited on all of these.

Femboy.fan seems to be a male-focused Booru using the same engine as E621, made in 2024. Unlike E621, they do not allow images with humanoids only. Cubs are not FORMALLY banned, but with what they wrote on this subject, I would NOT recommend it for such purpose:

Stellarfur.net is an old-fashioned forum website where users are allowed to post NSFW art of yоung characters, regardless of species, made in 2024.

Furtastic.art is a furry art site made in 2023, it’s in beta and therefore is likely to change. I ASSUME cub is allowed based on the rules being specifically against yоung humanlike characters, but I can’t seem to find examples of it (probably because why show NSFW to guests?):

I agree the guidelines could stand to be more specific (and it is a major point I intend to bring up to pup if and when he reappears). My approach is for the most part, tag with “nude only” for casual nudity and stuff like accidental/innocent exposures or peeks etc. If there’s anything else besides the nudity/erection that would otherwise prevent a safe rating (e.g. precum, ogling, blatant bedroom eyes, a direct offer/invitation for sex, discarded sex toys, off-screen sex happening etc.), tag with explicit.

Admittedly I’ve thrown a few things in there that I maybe shouldn’t have:

Ultimately, IMO, it’d be less work to have an overarching “body waste” tag that anyone can filter off easily rather than use this awkward and vague term

Hell, it’s awfully vague everywhere else as far as I can tell. Again, I’d rather have a tag called “gore and body horror” rather than this stuff, which for all I know would encompass suicidal thoughts or fascist imagery! Note that candy gore is pretty clearly not grimdark, but should probably be encompassed by something.

What purpose does the tag e621 dnp serve? I know E621 has a DNP list of its own, but in the context of posting to Cutepa.ws it’s irrelevant.

This is oddly specific, so I won’t be surprised if this gets ignored for a long time. But I’ve been thinking about it for a while.

In the Worms series, the concept of gender is mostly to completely irrelevant. When you create a team of worms, you can name them anything you want, and mix and match voices and visual customisation items however you please. Depending on the game you may have access to soundbanks that sound gender-neutral/feminine/masculine, “feminine” items (particularly hair styled in ways typically associated with women) and “masculine” items (particularly facial hair). Depending on the selected voice worms may use gendered terms to refer to other worms. However there’s no option to select gender, and worms don’t really have sexual dimorphism. In Worms Rumble you play as a single nameless worm, but customisation is the same.
There are canon characters with established genders, but they’re typically not fleshed out and ignored by the fanbase anyway. IMO the only character to stand out is Professor Worminkle from Worms 4 Mayhem.

When I post my own Worms art here and on DA/FA/IB/Aethy, I typically label the worms as male, unless they look stereotypically feminine or have visible female body parts.
On E621 I only repost other’s art (with the exception of 1 drawing, for now..?) and I tag it as “ambiguous_gender” unless there’s sexual dimorphism present, which is due to the rules over there. When I recently joined Furbooru, I decided to carry over E621’s tagging criteria.
Sometimes I wonder if I should change my tagging approach here to what I do on E621/Furbooru.

Also I have a Neocities site were I post worms I drew and generated, I considered linking to it as a source, but with the way it’s structured the best thing I could do would be using direct image links, which is frowned upon..?
Speaking of scores, downvotes are disabled on Manebooru, another Philomena-based Booru. I just thought it was interesting.

This may sound cringe, but I proposed the idea of a Worms Booru to someone, and I actually felt excited talking about it, until they said I’d be the one paying for it. So that’s not happening.

@Dillocircus
Otterball as well, but he and Rhumba only post AI generated imagery which is one of the most likely subjects to be filtered.

Today I registered on Furbooru, verified myself and posted a few cherrypicked innocuous drawings of my fursona, and nearly all of them have already got a score of -1. Thanks for the warm welcome, stupid person who never heard of filters.

@Dillocircus
Oh. I was thinking I could get back to posting pictures with diapers, but only soiled for now (because scat/watersports cancel out Safe).

Getting serious, again.

I was close to submitting a drawing when I noticed none of the user’s profiles listed on E621 were alive. I decided to look them up and found a callout post with proof of them being openly transphobic, going as far as saying that transphobia isn’t real and making suicide jokes involving specifically trans characters. To add insult to injury, they allegedly HAD BEEN friends with trans people before.
I felt a bad taste in my mouth and decided not to post it.

I also know that Shadman drew R34 of yоung characters, but they say his art also involved REAL minоrs, which is inexcusable.

I don’t know how you treat art made by such kinds of people, personally I don’t wanna knowingly post art made by sociopaths, pеdo/zооphiles and bigots.

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Now that I think about it, the mindset I displayed may be counterproductive from the POV of a site that aims to archive art. You never know if someone potentially becomes (or gets outed for past actions finally revealed) an awful person. The actual drawing I considered posting wouldn’t break any rules here. I can suppress my personal (albeit justified) dislike for an artist and share their work regardless, but I would like to hear some thoughts on this.

I know the category is called Shows and Movies, but it feels odd to separate video games, it’s still media discussion. Also there’s an official FNaF movie now, though I haven’t seen it.

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The games have shown several different versions of Freddy, Chica, Bonnie and Foxy, and most versions are distinct enough. But then there are the withered animatronics (FNaF2), which are just older, broken versions of the classic animatronics (FNaF1), which makes me question if they would need their own tags if they were to appear here. Although I imagine the chances are pretty low, especially with Withered Bonnie, they tore his face off.
Also, while looking through FNAF fanart, I realised Mangle/Toy Foxy (FNaF2) and Funtime Foxy (Sister Location) may be impossible to distinguish when drawn as organic foxes instead of animatronics if there’s not enough context, because they’re both white with pink countershading, yellow eyes and a red bowtie. It also doesn’t help that the FNaF World version of Funtime Foxy looks more like a “fixed” Mangle/Toy Foxy than Funtime Foxy’s actual design (which has plated casing, a loudspeaker in the chest and no hook hand).
There’s also discourse on whether Golden Freddy and Fredbear should be considered the same character, but it seems to have to do with lore and I sadly don’t care enough to research that (especially with the official books, I’m not the reading type). Maybe I should just avoid posting art related to him/them so I don’t have to think about it.
Springtrap and Spring Bonnie are a much simpler case. Spring Bonnie is a yellow rabbit springlock suit animatronic, it could perform on its own like a robot, but it could also be worn as a suit by an adult man, but it was hazardous. Springtrap is an undead entity: a decayed Spring Bonnie that one day malfunctioned and impaled the serial murderer William Afthon who was wearing it, his corpse is still inside and his soul is possessing the animatronic. While playing YT videos discussing FNaF lore in the background, I heard something about William wanting to be immortal. Well, I suppose he got what he wanted?

I made this Excel table comparing criterias of a few Fediverse instances that may be of interest to this site. Please note I made it without feedback, I don’t guarantee everything I wrote is correct. I avoid general furry instances because there may be too many and they’re most likely anti-cub.

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I’m not naming 2 instances in this post update because they’re too shady.
While scrolling through posts on Baraag I found a furry art post from Instance A with the term “MАP”. I didn’t notice anything off about the drawing, but when I checked the uploader’s profile, I found at least 3 other users from Instance B displaying THAT ONE flag.
I would like to extend this table, but NOT with instances that let pеdo/zооs boast about the cockroaches in their heads like it’s normal.

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I checked hashtags #abdlart and #babyfur on an instance called ABDL.link, but most posts I found are federated from CubHub.social, it also doesn’t allow NSFW art of undеrage characters and it’s full of photos, so… IRRELEVANT.

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Added software column. Added babyfurs.social, though from what I’ve seen it’s an inferior alternative to cubhub.social and I can’t navigate it for shit, I mostly find posts from other instances. Added more info on Aethy, Burggit, Headpat.cafe and Possums.gay. Coloured the table itself for easier navigation. Fixed the filename, since only 2/9 instances use Mastodon.

I’m just a regular user, but recently I started wondering: is chibi art really relevant to this site?
“Chibi” is just a way of drawing a character where you give them a bigger head, simplified features and overall cuter look. It has no connection to age at all: you can take an unambiguously adult character, like a male with muscles and facial hair or female with prominent breasts and thighs, and you can draw them as a chibi while still making it clear they’re NOT underage.
“Chibi” is the official style of the Littlest Pet Shop franchise. Most characters are technically NOT cubs, they’re just drawn in a cutesy way that may make them appear young. There also were multiple animated series (I can name 4) with some variety in art style, but we can ignore the LPS show from 1995 because the main cast of pets are obviously neither chibi nor cubs, they’re just miniature like a toy / figurine you’d put on your shelf.
I guess “chibi” is also the official style of Happy Tree Friends (with Lumpy being an exception), and the characters, while being anthro, aren’t depicted with any physical traits that would indicate adulthood. However, most characters here are also NOT cubs, as evidenced by Pop (father) and an actual cub named… Cub (his son). Although if I were to draw style-accurate NSFW art of them, I probably wouldn’t risk posting it to a normie website, they might just equate it to CSAM, and I don’t wanna go through this shit again. I don’t even like this franchise, I just want to contribute something that has little to no presence here.
G3.5 and Pony Life (sometimes called “G4.5” by fans) may be considered the “chibi” approaches to My Little Pony. Both have this “bobblehead” look to them. Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo in G3.5 are canonically younger than the rest of Core 7. G3.5 also includes baby depictions of the Core 7, but most people don’t like that, even I find the toys and some cartoon expressions to be unintentionally creepy.
With the overall theming of this site, I assume chibis MAY be relevant if they don’t have adult features, or they fall under “femboy” or “babyfur”. Does it mean things like this are not relevant? This is obviously a chibi, but she has boobs, which goes against the “cub” theme, and she doesn’t fit any other criteria.

To be completely honest, I’m indifferent to loli, shota and cubs. What I’m NOT indifferent to is how people think it’s normal to accuse you of something severe with no proof, the shitty formatting of Fediverse, the censorship of Pixiv and other Japanese sites, the “no human porn” rule of Inkbunny, the “no human lolisho” on E621, the “no NSFW of young-looking characters” rule on E6AI… The fate of human art here is uncertain, I’m considering All the Fallen… If only their site was working properly and not blocking itself half the time I try to visit! I also presume booru.foalcon.com is dead because I haven’t been able to access it, there’s always something wrong on THEIR end, not mine.

Baraag.net and Aethy.com are similar in how they both allow NSFW content of young characters, regardless of species. These instances don’t block each other, I’m on Aethy and I have retooted posts from Baraag. The only difference I noticed is that Aethy prohibits AI content.

No, i have literally noone to follow at all. I’m not even sure what i should try to find and follow, cubfurs, loli/shotacon or something else?

Should i try to join one of these “servers” (which?) or just post on the “normal” one, i don’t even know what that’s called and how it works? How would i get anyone to notice my posts?

I think the search is server-limited, obviously. I’m no on it, but from what I gather it’s a lot more like tumblr than “traditional” social media. Even more so than Bluesky, which is 100% chronological on your personal feeds, but has a FYP with a significantly less advanced algorithm than Twitter. Like, what is it with those algorithm and showing you stuff you’ve already liked or even reblogged? How else do you expect to further engage with that post, Bluesky/Twitter?? (Tumblr’s algorithm meanwhile, will happily recommend for following users that you have blocked or have blocked you… or both)

Anyway, the search is bad because in practice on Twitter and twitter clones most people don’t tag (though I guess it may depends on individual server?). I rarely see hashtags on my twitter feed, and they are basically entirely absent from Bluesky. Also it should be noted that any server can refuse to interact with another, so there will be servers that you can’t reblog/retweet/retoot/whatever-the-fuck-the-word-is-on-Mastodon from.

What do you do? Find your “starter stable” of accounts you want to follow. I assume if you wanna join Mastodon, you’re already checking the feeds of a few people regularly. When I joined Bluesky, I had about thirty+ people already who had fled twitter largely or entirely. If you don’t have that, why do you want to be on Mastodon exactly?? Throw in tags of interest, so you don’t even need to search for them.

Now, remember, there will be no algorithm to spoonfeed you content (or spread your stuff if you post yourself), so now your job is to interact if you want to get noticed. Retweet, like, respond. That’s how people will notice you. Check the original poster of good posts. If the account looks good? just follow it instead of relying on other people to push it onto your feed.

Be your own algorithm. Refine your block/mute filters over time to prevent stuff you don’t want on your feed. It can be some work, but it’s good hygiene for the mind to learn to do this! (it makes you learn how frustrating it is that you can’t do it on Facebook, for starters!)

Basically that’s my advice, based on how it works on Tumblr, and given that (tagging culture aside) Mastodon function much similarly in practice.

(if your question is more about the technicalities of “where are the useful functions” and “how the fuck this interface works??”, then I’m afraid I can’t do anything for you 😅😅)

To my knowledge…
Inkbunny allows both drawn and generated cubs, but the AI images must be done with open-source models, have metadata (description or text file in the same submission), and follow some additional conditions. No human porn regardless of means.
All the Fallen allows both drawn and generated cubs, but the moderators decide if it stays or not. They can reject it if they think it’s low-quality / irrelevant / too realistic, for AI they ask not to post more than 4 similar images.
Pixiv allows both drawn and generated cubs, but because of one Japanese law, genitals must be censored (a bar or a few, or a mosaic effect). Nipples, anuses and sexual fluids don’t need censoring.
E621 allows drawn cubs as long as there’s no human lolisho as well. But it has to approved by a moderator too.

Did you post AI-generated or other people’s cub stuff?

Oh great, now i’m banned from Bluesky too. Not really counting on getting it back, it was probably for posting some tame cub stuff, but i’ve seen plenty of others get removed entirely from there for basically just being into cubs.

Didn’t really have much interaction with anyone on there, but it basically leaves me with no window to what’s going on in the community, being recently banned from X, Discord and also from Facebook for several years - if i try to make a new account, it gets deleted within hours.

So i basically just have this forum, the dead board lulz.net and my YouTube channel to post on now. Anyone got any tips on anything else? Please, i’m NOT going on the fediverse. It just seems like too much trouble and a too high of a bar to bother with for an uncertain reward.

This isn’t considered spam, right? I haven’t found anything about it in the rules.
Most of the sites listed here are for MLP content, but there are varying degrees of overlapping in what they and this Booru allow.

I heard of an MLP Booru called Rainbooru which apparently has its own engine, but it’s down, I never got to see it, I can’t even find any screenshots besides a couple posted on Facebook (which is blocked in my country and I can’t register on it without revealing my identity).

booru.foalcon.com hosts humanised young MLP characters. I can’t remember if it has anthros and I can’t visit it because it’s having issues at the time (I HOPE it’s not dead). I used to be able to see it, but only with a VPN. It’s based on the Szurubooru engine, which I don’t know much about, and I only know 2 Boorus based on it: this one and a demo one.

Twibooru is one of those Boorus that are very similar to Derpibooru, but its Cloudflare now blocks me regardless if I use a VPN or not. IIRC it’s less restrictive than Derpi, allowing lolisho.

Baraag and Aethy are instances in Fediverse that are similar in how they both allow young NSFW art, whether it’s furry or human, but they’re uncomfortable to view because of the claustrophobic X-like format. I think reposting their content here would make it a lot more comfortable to browse it.

… why’re they fine wih that content on the main e621 then???

Scratch that, I fully support AI imagery having its own Booru.
I wrote a journal on IB venting my frustration regarding changes in Civitai’s rules and a random stranger told me not to use AI - like? Nobody is forcing you to look at it and you can use the blacklist? And you’re not going to change anything by talking to random people instead of the staff? Not to mention it was tone deaf to act like that under a vent post.
Also I read E6AI’s wall of text rules and there was this:

When I fetch an artwork from E621/Derpibooru and there’s at least one source link, I check them all, and if I find a dead source (removed by the artist, removed due to changes in what is or isn’t allowed, etc.), I remove it when posting it here.

But one time I ran into this situation. There was a picture on this site showing a few young characters, most of them were humans and one was a furry with VERY humanoid proportions (I mistook them for a kemonomimi at first). I checked the source links, and one of them led to a page on E621, which had only the tags and comments, but not the actual picture which had been removed as they no longer allow NSFW content with young humans. What should we do? Remove the link, or tag “dead source”?