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General Discussion » "Bluesky" has really stupid rules and stupid Mods. » Post 25

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I miss when the internet was just segregated forums with no crosstalkā€¦ sigh. Well I still say make a bluesky. They are being less strict on artwork. Plus, they donā€™t push for a phone number like twitter, truth, threads, etc.
Also threads really sucksā€¦ one of the worst. What if I donā€™t want to use Instagram?? canā€™t use threads.

General Discussion » "Bluesky" has really stupid rules and stupid Mods. » Post 24

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I was thinking about creating a BlueSky account, but I guess not then. I had earlier left X/Twitter, of course. Well, they are all the same, and Internet is better without any social media :P

General Discussion » "Bluesky" has really stupid rules and stupid Mods. » Post 23

Kitsu-Negi
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Recently on BSKY ā€“ There was a MASSIVE ban wave that targeted anyone who likes or interacts with accounts posting fictional cartoon Anime Loli/Shota Art as well as Cub Furry Artā€¦ BSKY Mods treat this FICTIONAL hand drawn cartoon content as if it is the exact same thing as CSEM, on a legal level and a moral / ethical level (and I have personally gotten emails sent to me from Bsky Moderation that says in their own words how they feel about this kind of artwork).
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sigh ā€¦. Look, I understand the need for a burgeoning social media platform like Blue Sky to put the clamp down on people who share ACTUAL ILLEGAL MATERIAL, as it presents a huge liability issue for themā€¦. however, 2D FICTIONAL CARTOON ARTWORK IS NOT THE SAME AS CSEMā€¦. for an image to qualify as CSEM, it MUST meet the requirement of either being (A) virtually indistinguishable from a real photographic image of a real human person, or (B) HAVE BEEN BASED ON A REAL PERSONā€¦.
Lewd cartoon rule 34 art of Tails and Sonic screwing does not count.
Lewd drawings of some non-existent fictional ā€œloliā€ character do not count.
In France, Canada, UK, Australia? Yeah, it counts THERE, not in the U.S.A.
(but after the Project 2025 crap, who knows?????)
Ashcroft VS Free Speech Coalition says ā€œpersons of ordinary intelligence can tell the difference between a photo of a real human person and a FICTIONAL CARTOON DRAWING.ā€
But BSKY clearly does not care about Laws or Logic, instead they go by feelings and opinions and by whatever the loud screeching voices of Twitter and Tumblr tell them is ā€œproblematic.ā€
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Taking a ā€œscorched earthā€ approach to this problem really is not fair.
Lumping people who draw or share FICTIONAL CARTOON ART in with actual criminals who trade genuine CSEM ā€“ IS NOT FAIR.
Many of the people whose accounts were affected RECEIVED NO EMAIL EXPLAINING THE REASON THEIR ACCOUNTS WERE TERMINATEDā€¦.
SOME of the affected users were able to send an email directly to Bsky Moderation and file an appeal to get their accounts reinstated, but with an email sent back to them that basically accused them of being in cahoots with actual criminals who trade actual images of real human peopleā€¦ and a threatening ā€œweā€™ll be watching you to see if you screw up again.ā€
So yeah, you file an appeal and get your account back, but if you happen to like a drawing that the BSKY Mods think is ā€œproblematicā€ ā€“ POOF, YOUR ACCOUNT GETS NUKED AGAINā€¦. so youā€™ll be walking on eggshells and trying your best NOT to click ā€œlikeā€ on any kind of cartoon artwork that might be considered ā€œproblematic.ā€
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On top of this, Bsky is also doing Ghost Ban type regulationā€¦
Comment too fast? Ghost Ban! Say the wrong words? Ghost Ban!
And YOU wonā€™t know that youā€™re Ghost Banned, unless you go
hop on a secondary alt account to go CHECK your main accountā€¦.
UGH!!! ā€¦ They want to be Twitter so badly that
they are copying all of the BAD aspectsā€¦

General Discussion » "Bluesky" has really stupid rules and stupid Mods. » Post 22

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Checking the source it seems very simples, but it depends in many libraries, mostly AWS stuff and AT Protocol libraries. Worth checking the AT Protocol libraries it uses. But seeing as itā€™s, looks like it uses a server as your own, with your own admin base.

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Josesk Volpe

Checking the source it seems very simples, but it depends in many libraries, mostly AWS stuff and AT Protocol libraries. Worth checking the AT Protocol libraries it uses. But seeing as itā€™s, looks like it uses a server as your own, with your own admin base.

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Josesk Volpe

You should ask without informing much the intention, asking only the technical thing. Very possible they could just close your question after also you could receive much harassments.

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Josesk Volpe

Also, once BlueSky got popular it began to had CSEM issue aswell, like, there were people sharing actual real CP and exploiting underage users. And also children creating accounts to post their own sexual pictures on their own (not going to discuss if thatā€™s right or wrong, but fact is thatā€™s also illegal in most countries) because of parents who donā€™t regulate their kids internet usage. This led to catch media attention on this platform and BlueSky brought more moderators to enforce their rules. But they enforced it really bad in the way you know (action = sexuality, real-life = fiction, etc), and in time it weighted in the entire MAP comunity and aswell shota/loli/cub/abdl community and they officialized it.

General Discussion » "Bluesky" has really stupid rules and stupid Mods. » Post 17

Kitsu-Negi
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Furries typically tend to be first on the scene when it comes to new social media platforms. I remember the first time I set up a Live Journal account, the person who invited me / told me about it was of course another Furry, and there were absolutely TONS of furries using LJ for their blogging and networking purposes.
Then LJ gradually lost relevance and Myspace was the hot trendy thing for a bit, until Facebook. Ahhh, but Facebook had a caveat ā€“ they started to enforce a ā€œReal Names Onlyā€ policy, which meant that if you had a silly name like say ā€œKitsune Bakaā€ ā€“ the FB mods would flag your account and scream THATā€™S NOT YOUR REAL NAME, WE WANNA SEE A PHOTO OF YOUR GOVERNMENT I.D. OR WE WONā€™T LET YOU BACK INTO YOUR ACCOUNT.
That was the first sign to me that Anonymity was dying. Facebook wants everything you do to be tied to your real identity, and Furries typically do not like using their Real Names onlineā€¦ way too easy to get stalked that wayā€¦. There was ā€“ at one point, an attempt by someone to create a Furry clone of Facebook called ā€œFur Gatherā€ but it wasnā€™t around for very long, the project runner eventually called it quits and just gave up on it despite a fair number of people showing interest.
Twitter ā€“ as far as I know ā€“ never tried to pull a Facebook and demand you use your actual real name, but ever since Elon took over itā€™s just gotten worse and worse. Bluesky has tried to swoop in and fill the void, but as soon as it got popular enough for the Normies to join it, theyā€™ve added more and more stupid restrictive rules to satisfy the migrating influx of Normies and their silly beliefs about ā€œProblematicā€ Fictionā€¦.
TeleGram is alright, but thatā€™s not really a Public Social Network, itā€™s more akin to a fancier version of ICQ for the modern timesā€¦ TeleGram also has its own set of problems, like the fact you are REQUIRED to sign up with a Phone Number, which may as well be the same as handing over your I.D. to Mark Robo-Zergā€¦

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Josesk Volpe

Itā€™s like, they used furries for their network to grow and get popular, as as soon it got popular, they said ā€œWe donā€™t need you anymore, get the fuck out, weā€™ll deal with the rest of you soonā€.

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Josesk Volpe

Just openened ā€œBEE-SKEE-GMAIL-MOD-PEARAX-BLANKED.jpgā€ now, for some reason the website wasnā€™t loading and had to open through Tor. That really looks like a post made by a ordinary Twitter mundane person, really unprofessional, a moderator taking itā€™s own opinions instead of clarifying based on the website rules even itā€™s stupid now. The argument is also really stupid, art has a powerful influence as a RATIONAL and CRITICISM tool, not as a ā€œguy saw X so he did Xā€ thing, itā€™s way over complex that, their narrative is just clearly infantilizing adults.

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Superdepas

Well, you guys can always join itaku.ee
The entire fediverse is dumb and stupid. Period.
Bluesky isnā€™t a federated network. It was supposed to be but they never released the hosting suite so its centralized.
iirc itā€™s federated in Mastodon

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A lot of cub artists were fleeing to Bluesky to just get banned immediately. Bastion and others tried to.
Trash.

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Kitsu-Negi
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Yeah, I mean Twitter fucking sucks and itā€™s broken as shit thanks to Elon trying to turn it into his little Cash Crop (YOU HAVE TO PAY TO USE THE DMā€™S, THEY ARE A FINITE RESOURCE, YOU CAN RUN OUT THEM) and his other shady ass ideas, like putting features that used to be FREE behind a Pay Wallā€¦ and yeah, I get banned for slight infractionsā€¦ but at least Twitter never really seemed to give a shit about Furry Cub or Shota Artworkā€¦ and Bsky going in this direction just makes me pissed off and disappointedā€¦

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I donā€™t understand starting twitter clones to just be worse than twitterā€¦

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