Aliasing in the nudity tags

Dillocircus
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At some point, all tags that amount to “partially clothed” were aggressively aliased to “nudity”, making that tag rather less useful, as a lot of characters where no genitals at all are visible ended up in it. On the other hand, all clothes are currently aliased to “clothed”, which may prove to be a problem. What should count as nudity? Here’s a VERY tentative proposal. Pup obviously has final decision!
First: I’m assuming pup is not a fan of “partially clothed”, so this entire discussion assumes an equivalent will not be created

Nudity

Includes:
  • complete nudity
  • Full frontal nudity
    • Tentatively defined as “the genitals are fully exposed, as well as breasts if present, in front view” (e.g. >>4882)
  • Full exposure of the torso, from neck to upper-thighs
    • not nudity of the torso, because I think some transparent/ineffective clothing qualify as nude: >>789
    • for the most part this is equivalent to e621’s “mostly nude”
  • Any outfit that fully exposes the upper chest, genitals and anus
Whatever definition of “nude” is decided, it would be applied to nude/clothed pairs like “clothed man/nude cub” (if such tags are used)
Aliased (possibly restored): mostly nude
Not aliased: bottomless, topless
Not implied: skimpy
Question: Should bottomless and topless imply “nudity”?
Question: Should “Full frontal nudity” and “mostly nude” be tags at all?
Question: Should there be a tag for characters whose nudity is not merely casual but normal, like digimon and pokemon?
#Clothed
Personally, I would alias or imply all tags about partial nudity to “clothed”, not “nudity”.
However, unless we expect future users to know about “discarded *” tags, I believe clothing item tags should not alias to “clothed”.
Implied by: Skimpy, bottomless, topless, mostly nude (if restored), undressing
Question: Should partial nudity tags other than “mostly nude” alias to “clothed” or to something like “invalid tag”?
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I’m going to keep my opinion quiet on this as it’s not that strong, and I’m curious what others may think. Aliasing clothed and clothing can be un-aliased it’s just I didn’t see any consistency in e621 and other boorus about it.
For further clarification, I think if you could answer these questions, it would help others.
There are some tags that maybe they should be kept or not, such as “collar only” or “chastity cage only” or “underwear only” or “hat only.” I’ve also been known to put “collar only” and nude together. To me, they’re still “nude” even if they’re wearing accessories. Should we keep those * only tags? It gets stupid if you get into “shirt only” or “swimsuit only.” To me, the only tag that should apply is if it’s not actual clothing and they’re still fully exposed.
If a picture is waist up and they’re topless, should it be tagged as topless or nude if you can’t tell if they’re wearing pants or not?
How about ferals, such as Pokémon, as you suggested, be listed? Should a fox be tagged nude if it’s feral? Technically, that is their default state, but there are some ferals that wear clothing.
How would you tag this?

Would this be bottomless, like I tagged, or should it be “cape only” or “skimpy outfit?” I honestly don’t know.
I love that you have joined the team and you can bring your experience from e621. This site needs some OCD tag management.
I don’t know how other people feel, but some tags aren’t needed, such as “bird” then “avian” if you can barely see a bird in the distance. Also, I hate tags like “wall” or “floor” or “tiled wall” like… that doesn’t matter. I’m not sure what you think of that.
Stinkek

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I noticed the description for “nudity” says something like “don’t use for bottomless characters”, but I find it on pictures where characters wear shirts and the like. Is this still being discussed?
Dillocircus
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I noticed the description for “nudity” says something like “don’t use for bottomless characters”, but I find it on pictures where characters wear shirts and the like. Is this still being discussed?
I did the edit to the tag, but did not go all the way back. You gotta remember that a LOT of stuff got imported from e621 with the tag combinations of bottomless/topless + partial nudity.
Alright, here’s a more elaborate chart (I have certainly overlooked a bunch of situations, so feel free to point corner cases and confusions):

Premises

  • Nudity is defined here as “exposure of sexual bodyparts” (breasts, genitals, anus, butt…)
  • Nudity tags are relative to the normal presence of clothes and genitals in official depictions of this character.
  • Nudity tags include, for example: casual nudity, nudity, full frontal nudity, tasteful nudity, forced nudity, exposure, clothed/nude etc. and generally anything that is implied to the tag “nudity” (except for the rating tag “nude only”)
    • However, nudity tags do NOT include things like “bottomless”, “topless” and “X only” as they do not necessarily expose genitals.
  • All tags that are variants of “fully nude” and “partially nude” are aliased to “nudity”, with the exception of “full frontal nudity”, which has a specific meaning
  • This chart assumes no tag for a character like Bugs Bunny who is normally without clothes and a featureless crotch

Flowchart

(reminder: breasts alone are a suggestive rating)
  1. No genitals shown:
    • The character is depicted with a featureless crotch
      • There are boobs depicted → apply a nudity tag only if nipples are present.
        • If no nipples/areolas → Use featureless X tag(s) as appropriate.
      • Is this character depicted with less clothing than normal for this character?
        1. Yes → Use an appropriate combination of nudity and rating tag
        2. No → Use featureless X tag(s) as appropriate.
    • The genitals are implied, but not visible, and the character is completely or mostly nude
      • Is the image suggestive/seductive?
        1. Yes → Use “pinup” and “tasteful nudity”
        2. No → Use “tasteful nudity” or “casual nudity” alone
  2. The character is a feral
    • Is this character normally depicted/implied as wearing clothes? (e.g. Paw Patrol, Commission series of [url=https://inkbunny.net/gallery/TheSuperProfessor]TheSuperProfessor[/url]…)
      1. No → Do not use any nudity tag, apply featureless crotch if appropriate
        • Do not use “featureless chest” unless this feral character is normally depicted with nipples or breasts.
      2. Yes → Use the tag “clothed feral”
        • Are genitals depicted?
          1. No → apply appropriate non-explicit tags such as “featureless crotch”, “tasteful nudity” or “exposure” as appropriate
          2. Yes → Apply nudity tags as you would for an anthro character
            • Do not use “featureless chest” unless this feral character is normally depicted with nipples or breasts.

Anthro nudity:

  • Apply “nudity” only if breasts, butt or genitals are visible (including if covered by transparent, or fishnet clothing). Otherwise just the clothing-related tags such as “X only”, “bottomless” or “topless”
    • A character flashing or exposing their underwear is not nudity. Apply “underwear exposure” (this tag is not implied to nudity).
  • Tags on top of “nudity”
    • Apply “full frontal nudity” if the entire area from the crotch to the neck is functionally exposed and visible to the viewer (i.e. ignoring belts, straps, and bondage gear)
      • Except for censoring, the genitals must be fully visible and unobscured
    • Apply “ineffective clothing” only if genitals are present and not covered by the clothing, otherwise, just use use “X only” or “transparent/fishnet clothing” if appropriate. (“unconvincing armor” can be used regardless of genital visibility)

Definition of “clothing”

The following do not count as “clothing” (and thus not to be implied to clothing-related tags, nor to have X only tags created):
  • Leather straps
  • Wraps other than chest wraps or full-body wraps (currently not used)
  • Bandages
  • Glasses, goggles and other eyewear
  • Jewelry and similar accessories, such as wristbands, lanyards etc.
  • Collars
  • Cock rings
Exception:
  • certain fetish gears such as chastity cages or harnesses are not implied to clothing tags, but they can still be used as “X only”
  • Belts are clothing, but “belt only” is not a tag because no one wears a belt alone for coverage
Stinkek

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I found the tag “commando” interesting, it’s not used just because the character has no underwear, but because they’re also wearing clothing that would normally suggest presence of underwear (pants, shorts, skirt, dress).
Dillocircus
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I found the tag “commando” interesting, it’s not used just because the character has no underwear, but because they’re also wearing clothing that would normally suggest presence of underwear (pants, shorts, skirt, dress).
I don’t think it’s implicated to nudity. Mind you, nudity of some sort usually must occur for Commando-ing to be noticeable 🤣
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